01:17:02	Geeta Sekhon:	@ GFMD Technical Support - can the volume of the interpreter increased please. It is hard to hear the person clearly due to the low volume. Thanks.
01:31:06	GFMD TECH SUPPORT 1:	Hi everyone ! Please feel free to use the raise hand feature to participate and contribute sharing your ideas
01:42:02	Abdulrahman Alqahtani - State of Qatar:	hi can I have permission to record meeting
01:45:37	MAHAMAT SALEH SEÏD:	Oui sécuriser les frontières est une chose importante mais ceci nécessite aussi au délà de maintenir et partagé des informations avec les Etats voisins et surtout quand il s'agit d'une population transfrontalière qui se trouve de part et d'autre entre deux ou plusieurs Etats.
01:51:15	Ahmed Bugre (AUC-DSA):	Is the discussion about about addressing irregular migration? What is “illegal migration?”
02:00:54	Shirin Lira, PROKAS, British Council:	Thank you Michele for highlighting on how regular or legal migrants become irregular migrants specially women who often faces domestic violence, sexual harrasment and abuse at work place. More we make regular pathways strict and limited for highly skilled groups, risks for irregular migration and trafficking increased. It put women with less educational skill and youth at higher risk of irregular migration and social exclusion
02:02:57	Ahmed Bugre (AUC-DSA):	Thank you Michele for such an elaborate and informative intervention.
02:04:01	Fernanda Madrigal:	Excellent Michele
02:04:23	Linda MRCI:	How can governments ensure that regularization efforts are inclusive, where the criteria is people who are working. Especially during a pandemic where people may not be working?
02:04:47	Abdulrahman Alqahtani - State of Qatar:	thanks Michele levoy
02:05:12	Gary's iPhone:	need translation
02:05:13	OECD - Jason GAGNON:	very good points michele - would be good to get more examples from/to developing countries as well.
02:05:13	Jack Amick, UMCOR:	Amen! thank you Michelle for an incredibly balanced, insightful, and humane presentation; especially the need to give no-questions-asked vaccines to migrants and, more generally, the recognition that migrants are part of healthy, diverse societies/communities. 
02:05:54	Geeta Sekhon:	No interpretation available
02:06:14	Abdulrahman Alqahtani - State of Qatar:	we need Arabic translation please
02:06:47	GFMD TECH SUPPORT (GARY):	language interpretation is working. apologies for the inconvenience caused
02:11:42	PM Venezuela:	We can´t hear the interpretation in Spanish
02:12:57	GFMD TECH SUPPORT (GARY):	Please mute original audio if you are having trouble hearing the interpretation
02:13:17	GFMD TECH SUPPORT (GARY):	in the interpretation tab there is an option to mute original audio
02:13:54	MTV support Nathalie:	The interpretation in Spanish is available and active, thank you
02:19:10	Landuyt, Katerine:	International stadards
02:20:09	Ellene Sana, CMA Philippines:	governments should make the regular pathways migrant-friendly, easy, affordable so prospective migrants do not turn to unscrupulous recruiters and traffickers.
02:21:13	Diego Morejon:	Ecuador asks for the floor, please
02:21:36	GFMD TECH SUPPORT (GARY):	Please use the raise hand feature
02:26:32	Sara Al Khatib, Solidarity Center:	It's also very concerning when labor migration relieves pressure for creating decent jobs in the countries of origin
02:28:35	Olga Polozkova:	Russian asks for the floor. I've had some connection issues and really want to participate in Session 1
02:32:08	Saiful Haque-WARBE, Bangladesh:	Thanks to the Foreign Secretary of Bangladesh H.E Mr. Masud Bin Momin for excellent statement…we agreed that the countries to revisit existing options and pathways for regular migration, with a view to optimizing skills-matching in labor markets and addressing demographic realities and development challenges and opportunities…..
02:37:12	Shabari Nair, ILO:	There are a number of initiatives in South Asia to address irregular migration:ILO, IOM and UN Women will be supporting
02:41:24	EXB VENEZUELA Hector Constant Rosales:	Could you please close your intervention?
02:42:53	Shabari Nair, ILO:	1. ILO, IOM and UN Women will be supporting governments, working with civil society, trade unions and employers' organisations in working on issues pertaining to fair recruitment, skills development and reintegration. 2. Fair recruitment initiatives in specific corridors between South Asian countries and corridors with the Middle East and South East Asian countries will also help reduce irregular migration. 3. ILO is also supporting the development of global and regional guidance on bilateral labour migration agreements. 4. There are also a number of initiatives for pre-departure and pre-decision orientation for migrant workers to make them aware of safe migration channels. 5. Translating international labour standards and guidelines to national policy frameworks are also important. --- These are some of the elements that stakeholders are working on in the region to address irregular migration.
02:45:43	Karen Sánchez:	Sorry, what is the question the speaker (Ms Polozkova) is responding to now?
02:47:19	Shabari Nair, ILO:	https://www.ilo.org/newdelhi/whatwedo/projects/WCMS_762667/lang--en/index.htm
02:47:26	Sara Al Khatib, Solidarity Center:	Failure to impose penalties on the employer or not dealing firmly with crimes and violation the employers commit, including withholding formal documents and restricting the workers' movement, forces the worker to choose illegal pathways for recruitment inside the countries of destination and also illegal channels to rectify the residency status in which the worker falls a victim of brokers' exploitation
02:50:50	rais hamida:	is there translation please
02:51:44	GFMD TECH SUPPORT (GARY):	translation is working
02:52:28	(N)GFMD TECH SUPPORT:	Kindly click on the globe icon at the bottom of your screen for translations.
02:53:10	Djamal Habtiche:	i would like to take the floor for government of Algeria
02:53:13	Michele LeVoy:	As Ambassador Morejon has just mentioned, we should refer to "irregular" or "undocumented" (and not "illegal" migrants or migration). The UN General Assembly made the same recommendation to UN member states already in 1975: https://picum.org/Documents/WordsMatter/Words_Matter_Terminology_FINAL_March2017.pdf
02:54:04	GFMD TECH SUPPORT (GARY):	Kindly raise your hand in order to intervene.
02:54:11	Djamal Habtiche:	Mr.cherif Oualid,Director ministry of Foreign Affairs Algeria
02:54:32	Landuyt, Katerine:	Monitoring and eforcement of law and policy in practice is vital to adress irregular migration and to guarantee a minimum level of protection. ILO standards and its supervisory bodies are calling for respect of huan rights, including labour rights of all workers, and dissuasive sanctions and effective enforcementfor  of relevant laws in preventing abuses against migrant workers. 
02:55:56	Landuyt, Katerine:	ILo supervisory bodies have also emphasized the use of terminology and the need to refer to irregular status migrant workers or migrant workers in an irregular situation. It is the situation that is irregular and not the worker. 
02:57:13	Leighton, Michelle:	Please unmute Mic for Katherine Landuyt who will speak for ILO
02:58:34	GFMD TECH SUPPORT (GARY):	Hello. Her mic has been unmuted
03:01:02	Sara Al Khatib, Solidarity Center:	The worker himself can be irregular or undocumented, of course not illegal, but the brokers illegally create these channels. When we talk about traffickers and brokers, we're talking about crimes and illegality 
03:13:20	Jack Amick, UMCOR:	Well put, Christian!   the term "vulnerable" is very subjective and is essentially defined by the dominant power and can be influenced by all manner of biases, including nonsensical narratives of so-called "reverse discrimination," job loss, importation of crime, and health concerns.  For instance, if one believes the false and condescending narrative that migrants categorically bring disease, a  warped view that residents of the country of destination are somehow the ones who are vulnerable might be promulgated.  Clearly, we need, globally, to do a better job categorically protecting children (childhood does not end at 12, BTW), women, and GLBTQ migrants, for instance.   And never, as I've heard has been the case recently, should migrants seeking asylum be told by border officials:  "Because of Covid, we aren't doing asylum right now."
03:14:33	Landuyt, Katerine:	Dear colleagues, here are some ILO resources that provide guidance to this discussion and to meeting international standards: ILO General Survey on migrant workers instruments (see esp. chapters 4, 5, 8 and 9). It also addresses tehe issue of firewalls and role of labour inspection (which shoudl be focused on monitoring labour legislation and working conditions rather than enforcing immigration law: https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_norm/---relconf/documents/meetingdocument/wcms_453898.pdf 
03:15:13	Landuyt, Katerine:	Migrant workers in an irregular istuation through no fault of their own: https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---arabstates/---ro-beirut/documents/publication/wcms_568545.pdf
03:16:18	Landuyt, Katerine:	The ILO will also soon to publish a Compendium on good practice to address irregular migration and protection of migrant workers in irregular situations
03:18:16	Hakima Haithar:	Please share this publication once  it is published. hhaithar@gcmigration.org ( Global Coalition on Migration)
03:18:53	Landuyt, Katerine:	Yes, sure.
03:25:59	Maggie Powers, Mayors Migration Council:	Thank, you Laura, for sharing the perspective of local authorities and bringing your experience from New York State to this dialogue!
03:36:28	leo:	no video for the speaker?
03:37:21	GFMD TECH SUPPORT (GARY):	The Speakers connection is not stable
03:37:26	GFMD TECH SUPPORT (GARY):	Hence no video
03:38:39	Martina Liebsch:	Thank you Irene for highlighting the need for the access to the vaccine for all persons independently of the status including of irregular migrants without fear of being reported to immigration authorities; it would be commendable if this Forum issues a call to all states to make this possible!
03:40:49	Landuyt, Katerine:	ensuring equality of treatment  between migrant workers, irrespective of their status, and nationals, including with regard to conditions of work and wages is an important principle in international standards. Addressing wage inequalities is key in context of policies promoting regular pathways but also addresing migrant workers's rights, irrespective of status. A recent ILO publication on the migrant pay gap (covering data on wages in 49 countries) found a an overall hourly wage gap of almost 13 percent - but in some countries this was as high as 43 per cent or even 71 per cent for migrant workers at lowest end of wage distribution. Further research is needed into situation of irregular status migrant workers.
03:42:46	Landuyt, Katerine:	ILO.2020.The migrant pay gap:
Understanding wage differences
between migrants and nationals: https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_protect/---protrav/---migrant/documents/publication/wcms_763798.pdf
03:43:11	Ellene Sana, CMA Philippines:	decent work for migrant workers will make workers stay with their employers and thus prevent irregular migration.
03:46:25	Ellene Sana, CMA Philippines:	countries of destination should go after abusive employers, sanction them and put them on watch list or black list
03:50:13	Michele LeVoy:	On terminology, it is advisable to refer to "irregular border crossings" or "irregular migration" (not to use "illegal" for migration or for people).
03:50:48	Diego Morejon:	Right
03:52:07	Martina Liebsch:	The fight against traffickers will only be successful if we offer sustainable perspectives for victims of trafficking 
03:52:37	C S Akhil:	True Ellene, Employers should be accountable. COD governments should strengthen the monitoring of employers.
03:53:34	Martina Liebsch:	More research and data on irregular migration is needed to understand the complexity
03:57:24	Sumitha Shaanthinni Kishna | Our Journey:	True, data is very important. Also look at root causes of irregular migration without scrutiny through the security lense
03:57:49	Ellene Sana, CMA Philippines:	thank you all
03:58:22	Michele LeVoy:	thank you for an active and informed discussion on irregular migration - and to the UAE for prompting the discussion. It would be good to see if this now could become a recurring thematic priority of the GFMD.
03:58:48	Miguel Aguilar Mx:	que no se escape del debate la responsabilidad de todos los países. quienes expulsamos también tenemos responsabilidad. secundo la idea de hablar de regular e irregular y nunca de legal e ilegal, son conceptos distintos
03:58:49	Martina Liebsch:	Thank you very much for the interesting round-table! It should become a recurring theme!
03:58:55	Sumitha Shaanthinni Kishna | Our Journey:	thank you
03:59:31	Bob:	thank you all
03:59:58	Christian Wolff, ACT Alliance:	Yes, agree with the assessment of others and would like to see the GFMD remain engaged on this issue
04:01:32	Landuyt, Katerine:	Thank you to co-chairs and to you all for this rich and very important discussion. 
04:01:41	Saiful Haque-WARBE, Bangladesh:	Thanks all for active participations...we are looking forward to have this open dialogue in the GFMD platform in future....stay safe
04:01:50	Med Wajdi Aydi ( Ville de Sfax ):	Merci à vous Tous Mmes Mrs …..شكرا لكم جميعا 
04:02:52	joseluis.pardo@maec.es:	THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU. GRACIAS MERCI SHUKRAM
04:03:10	Camille Saadé (GFMD Support Unit):	Thank you all for your participation
04:03:52	FRANCK IYANGA:	Merci à toutes et tous